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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 11:47:40 GMT 1
The Great Escape Festival, Brighton. Thu 18th - Sat 20th May. Badly printed advert in today's NME, but I can make out that Mummra and Waxed Apple are amongst the dozens appearing. Bearing in mind the enormous number of sponsors for this event, does anyone over that way think it's worth going? www.escapegreat.com
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Post by carolyn on Apr 19, 2006 12:40:50 GMT 1
Stu - how much can you pack in during may? We'll be at camber...
I've never been so cannot comment on what it is like. Seems quite cheap tho...
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 15:24:23 GMT 1
Wasn't actually thinking of going - the line-up's not great - but was wondering what you Brighton lot thought of it, and in fact whether there was any attempt at organising a comprehensive Brighton representation, or whether it all went through managers and press-officers again.
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Post by petra on Apr 19, 2006 15:35:20 GMT 1
the issue with local festivals here stu is that promoters and venues here are rivals. it's not like hastings, where dizzy tiger holds a cultural monopoly over the underground and no promoters ever make any money. promoters attempting a 'comprehensive' representation of the brighton scene (to include what? the flourishing hobgoblin 3-chord punk scene, the freebutt lofi indie scene, the spirit of gravity electronica scene - all 3 are homegrown scenes with their own promoters and venues) come up against political problems pretty fast. ladyfest organisers, for example, found it really hard to move outside of a fairly freebutty line up, even though they tried.
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 15:41:31 GMT 1
Dizzy Tiger - cultural monopoly - are you sure?! But yeah, from what you say, the difference with Hastings is that the venues don't have the power to keep a certain clique of bands on their side, playing only their venues. There's just not so many bands or venues to go round that either side would wish to limit who plays where. Am I understanding you right?
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Post by petra on Apr 19, 2006 15:43:00 GMT 1
yeah, kind of. promoters too, though - none of them make money over there, do they? but it does mean that pretty much anyone in hastings can organise a festival!
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 15:47:56 GMT 1
You managed a few! Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff going on all the time nowadays. It's great.
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Post by petra on Apr 19, 2006 15:56:45 GMT 1
i'm sure it's old hat, but dean and i were resurrecting ridding in the wee small hours of monday morning.
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 15:59:39 GMT 1
Careful with that voodoo shit! I do think we can all help make Rocksalts the new Ridding though...
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Post by petra on Apr 19, 2006 16:02:44 GMT 1
ambrose tomkins? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmk
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 16:04:55 GMT 1
He's only confirmed on Marcus' thread here, isn't he? I have no idea who he is anyway. My point being that Paul's been asking us to put forward bands to play Rocksalts, and we all know a bunch of damn better bands than Rye Town Council probably do.
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Post by petra on Apr 19, 2006 16:18:20 GMT 1
ambrose tomkins are a leicester band with lins to friends of mine. they supported the go! team recently. they're, you know, ok/.
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Post by joe on Apr 19, 2006 16:43:25 GMT 1
Was thinking of going to see buck 65! Have wanted to see buck for about 3 years now. The only problem is, I looked on the site and realised it was part of this festival! Apart from 65daysofstatic, I am not interested in seeing any of the other artists (and 65 are on the same night as buck) so I wont bother going. I am not going to pay 35£ for one night unless the ocean rooms are allowing entry on the night for a price? Anyone think that is likely?
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 17:22:57 GMT 1
I would expect so, as at such short notice I don't imagine enough people are gonna pay the full price to fill all the venues at once. But as always, check the link above, and with the venue closer to the time maybe. Meanwhile, of course Paul & Ruth lived in Leicester, and The Go!Team's first 7" came out on Pickled Egg, so it's all interlinked. Would be quite happy if Paul filled Rocksalts with more Leicester acts from that scene...
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Post by marcusjr on Apr 19, 2006 18:07:04 GMT 1
And Paul played with Ambrose Tomkins as did/does Leicester Ben
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Post by joe on Apr 19, 2006 18:43:19 GMT 1
I would expect so, as at such short notice I don't imagine enough people are gonna pay the full price to fill all the venues at once. But as always, check the link above, and with the venue closer to the time maybe. Meanwhile, of course Paul & Ruth lived in Leicester, and The Go!Team's first 7" came out on Pickled Egg, so it's all interlinked. Would be quite happy if Paul filled Rocksalts with more Leicester acts from that scene... Hmmm hopefully! Couldnt find info on the site, looked as if you had to buy a ticket for the whole event. Ill try emailing/contacting ocean rooms closer to the time.
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Post by rashamon on Apr 19, 2006 20:10:21 GMT 1
Speaking of new promoters I just let Put it on promotions become a friend on myspace - mainly due to the fact they've got Like a Stuntman on at the Freebutt in June!
The whole Kerrang festival website is a huge pile of shit. Paula wanted me to check about an artist who was playing (can't remember the name) - indicated he was playing but no date and no venue.
£35 for pisswank or £115 for 3 nights in a delightful chalet with a wealth of musical nuances. And a little pisswank. Easy tossup.
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Post by rashamon on Apr 19, 2006 20:12:40 GMT 1
Oh - and yeah, Spirit of Grav just had to apply for funding as the prices of venues in Brighton are just way too much. £100 for the Freebutt and even £60 for the Marlborough Theatre. Midweek! What a swizz!
Theres no way we can even make that money back on most nights - plus paying artists and scraping together just £10 to pay for the flyers. Its all a depressing state of affairs...
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 19, 2006 20:26:39 GMT 1
Relocation Relocation Relocation. I believe Smugglers would give you a fairer rate! Picked-up my old paperback Doctor Who episode guide book when I was at my parents' the other day: I'd forgotten there was a William Hartnell story called The Smugglers. Does anyone with LOTS of time on their hands, who's feeling REALLY creative, want to invent a whole new script for this one, without knowing the plot? The companions were from the present-day (the 1960's): a merchant seaman called Ben and a computer secretary called Polly. Or invent an entirely different story! We should have a competition. Winner gets, um, an original hardback copy of Revenge Of The Cybermen, without the cover. And a bottle of Timothy Taylor's Landlord Ale at Smugs, courtesy of me, on a flush night. Gotta be better than going to see The Kooks or The Maccabees! (nb: these are modern, shoddy, stage-school Brighton "indie" bands, not obscure Doctor Who monsters from the 1960's, but you see where we can go with this one...)
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Post by petra on Apr 20, 2006 14:43:37 GMT 1
And Paul played with Ambrose Tomkins as did/does Leicester Ben interestingly enough, leicester ben is the only boy that my ladyloving friend gemma has ever boned. bit of trivia for you there. stu if you want rocksalts to have more lecester bands from pickled egg, i can get kesh on to it. he's still mates with turk as far as i know. or you could just post a message on that prolapse thread on ILM, the one i linked you to. all that lot post there, still.
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Post by marcusjr on Apr 20, 2006 18:13:56 GMT 1
That sounds like Ben, he shows up in Hastings about twice a year and deflowers the womenfolk before fleeing to the Midlands to practice the mandolin and shagging.
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 20, 2006 18:58:42 GMT 1
It's up to Paul to sort the Leicester end: we wouldn't want to invite down a load of sworn enemies! For all we know, Mark Hibbert spilt his pint.
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 26, 2006 15:32:12 GMT 1
Talking of Corporate, The Kooks have booked a big gig on Hastings Pier this August, as if people actually liked them or something! Just to reiterate, they're a manufactured band from the same stage-school as Katie Melua (the lead singer's ex, apparently), and going to see them play will karmically hammer another nail into the coffin of your soul. Ok!
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Post by rashamon on Apr 26, 2006 16:37:59 GMT 1
They're my new favorite band!
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Post by JoeB on Apr 30, 2006 14:36:22 GMT 1
Talking of Corporate, The Kooks have booked a big gig on Hastings Pier this August, as if people actually liked them or something! Just to reiterate, they're a manufactured band from the same stage-school as Katie Melua (the lead singer's ex, apparently), and going to see them play will karmically hammer another nail into the coffin of your soul. Ok! Cant stand crap like that. utter shite! The strokes, arctic monkeys, kooks etc. All a pile of a wank! Good to know you feel the same.
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Post by stuhuggett on Apr 30, 2006 17:10:38 GMT 1
I like loads of guitar-bands, but I don't like marketing departments. They kill any enjoyment of music.
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 22, 2008 21:44:23 GMT 1
The tedious 'city'-oriented Brighton media are making a big song&dance about this festival, although I wouldn't be suprised if either a) it got cancelled, or b) it turns out to be a Z008 -style debacle - www.beachdownfestival.com/On the plus side, A Certain Ratio are billed.
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Post by petra on Jul 23, 2008 3:13:33 GMT 1
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 23, 2008 7:44:23 GMT 1
Agreed: when I said tedious I was referring to the Brighton lifestyle media (Latest 7, Insight, etc), not Brighton itself. Colour Out Of Space looks particularly like it's really coming into its own this year.
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Post by stuhuggett on Sept 6, 2009 20:30:48 GMT 1
Bump-ety Bump! I like this thread: the only part of it I'd change now is that I rather like the Maccabees this year (especially the cheese-rolling video here for their best single to date, Can You Give It) So, I was a year out, but Beachdown got cancelled. And Loop's gone bust. But Colour Out Of Space is back! Soonish. Here's Mark E Smith reading HP Lovecraft's story The Colour Out Of Space for the BBC Collective's Xmas ghost story season a couple of years back.
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