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Post by rashamon on Jun 16, 2006 13:44:40 GMT 1
Well Stu, Radio Times or no Radio Times you'd have to be a hermit living in a cave to find out that: ..... is leaving at the end of the series. They are being replaced by ....... who appears in the last two episodes this year. Controversy reigns but I expect the viewing figures to be exceptionally high for the last episode (unless theres an England match that day - which sorely affected The Satan Pit).
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Post by carolyn on Jun 16, 2006 16:13:08 GMT 1
**POTENTIAL SPOILER***
In 'The Satan Pit' the fate of said character was exposed, was it not? When the devil was talking to those on board the ship thing - he/she/ whatever said a little bit about each character and I though it said something then... sorry - not going to be explicit just in case Stu and others have been living in a cave and don't want to know.
I know what I mean anyway...
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Post by petra on Jun 16, 2006 17:43:59 GMT 1
unfortunately, so do i, since it practically had flashing vegas arrows pointing to it.
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 16, 2006 23:43:37 GMT 1
Something to do with Billie Piper's character settling down in the ancient East Sussex village of Battle, living a long and happy life organising the cider-stall at the Black Horse Music Festival, and eventually dying of old-age, surrounded by her loving family, in her cottage out by The Squirrel Inn? Yes?
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 17, 2006 18:28:49 GMT 1
I dunno if anyone's on the boards before Doctor Who tonight; but it's a music special on The Weakers Link, with... Tony Wilson - smartarse.
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 18, 2006 18:36:14 GMT 1
I didn't twig until today how co-incidental my posting about The Weakest Link's guests was, as 24 Hour Party People's 'Lindsay Wilson' (ie Shirley Henderson) turned up straight after in Doctor Who, of course. Though the Peter Kay/monster bits were poor (betraying their origins as a Blue Peter competition), the Marc Warren side of the story really stuck with me over this weekend. I particularly enjoyed the revealing of the use of Mr Blue Sky as an emotional connection by his character to his memories of his mother (that final few seconds of the song's orchestral/vocoder coda that played out over the footage of her near the episode's close). You can't beat a bit of ELO! Talking to both my parents, Michael, Caroline, Carrie & Carolyn about it, there's a real difference of opinions on the episode's merits, but I do reckon it will actually improve with a repeated viewing (though that's a long way off for me). And well-spotted, Lee, about the cameo (not in the Radio Times) by Bella Emberg - I really thought you were pissing-about. We're gonna try and get a Dizzy Tiger reference into a future episode, by the way: will we succeed?
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Post by carolyn on Jun 19, 2006 8:07:26 GMT 1
Well, not really being into all that Sci-Fi stuff - I thought Saturday's episode was the best I'd ever seen. The opening 15 / 20 mins (before Peter Kay arrived) were a joy. I found the near end sequence (with him and his Mum) very moving.
I would certainly watch that episode again.
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Post by rashamon on Jun 19, 2006 11:18:34 GMT 1
I enjoyed it as well - I remember thinking it would divide the critics.
The monster was shabby, however.
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 21, 2006 17:15:52 GMT 1
Doctor Who Top Trumps cards, £3.99! My Penelope Wilton trumps your Simon Pegg, etc. Good stuff.
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 24, 2006 20:20:01 GMT 1
What the hell was that, cheapest episode ever? They didn't even bother to animate the drawings or the dad (an off-camera extra and a red lightbulb DOESN'T COUNT)! Can Huw Edwards act (again, off-camera)? No! I really enjoyed it, though, in a cheap way... But roll-on next week, and the rest of the series' budget!
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Post by carrie on Jun 24, 2006 21:47:29 GMT 1
drivel, really if the boy wasn't so interested i think i would have given up, a good while ago.
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Post by rashamon on Jun 25, 2006 13:11:26 GMT 1
I'd say it was my least favourite of the new episodes. The only bits I liked were the 'fingers on lips' (which I managed to amuse only myself with at a cocktail party later on that night) and the misparking of the TARDIS. I suspect the original story was mean't to be a lot scarier and suffered at the hands of budget and BBC. I was thinking along the lines of the dad from 'The Grudge' mixed with a childs cartoon - would have been a lot more effective. The tagline for the next episode is 'The Worst is Yet to Come...'. Lets hope not!
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 25, 2006 16:31:21 GMT 1
I was really hoping we'd get to a 'Doctor in the Land of Chalk Drawings' -style sequence eventually, but at least you can go onto www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho and play a 'Help the Doctor escape from the scribble-world' game! I definately agree that the writer's original intentions must've been severely reduced by the budget: characters constantly pointing off-screen and saying "Look! That drawing just moved!" didn't exactly rack-up the tension.
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Post by carrie on Jun 25, 2006 21:56:26 GMT 1
haven't tried the game, but am prepared to put up an argument for leaving the doctor in the scribble drawing for 6 months, to give him time to reflect on his recent behaviour...
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 28, 2006 14:24:44 GMT 1
Oh, and from the previews to last week's episode: "The Doctor lets slip some suprising information" (or words to that effect). He was a Dad? We knew that from the first episode in 1963! At least us spods did.
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Post by rashamon on Jun 28, 2006 17:31:30 GMT 1
We knew he was a grandad - we didn't know he was a dad.
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Post by stuhuggett on Jun 28, 2006 17:44:32 GMT 1
Er...right!
Extra spodness: wasn't there also a scene in Tomb Of The Cybermen, between Patrick Troughton and Victoria (Deborah Watling), about this too? I've not got a copy of it to check, but am sure you did Lee.
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Post by rashamon on Jul 3, 2006 13:38:57 GMT 1
No longer have the video I'm afraid! So hopefully it was only Stu that I spoilt the ending of this weeks episode for. Anyone figured out what's going to happen to Rose. Theres not many instances of people doing a narrative for a show and then pointing out they died - does she really die? does she end up in the alternative earth? or the void? is there a beach in the void? so many riddles.... Some rumours did not come true - me pointing out to Linda that the girl converted by the cybermen was going to be the new assistant, shortly before she dies....
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 3, 2006 18:53:40 GMT 1
In that case, we'll take your future plot-spoilers with a pinch of salt! I thought, unless they're going all Desperate Housewives on us, that maybe Rose was talking about dying in a figurative way, but I'm happy to wait and see. The Void beckons! (NB: yeah, The Eternals that the Doctor referred to were the people in the Peter Davison story Enlightenment - you remember, sailing ships in space, Keith Barron, Lynda Baron, Leee John from Imagination...) I really liked all the tv clips in this week's episode, by the way: East Enders and Derek Acorah in particular!
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 5, 2006 17:17:24 GMT 1
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Post by rashamon on Jul 5, 2006 17:33:50 GMT 1
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 5, 2006 18:59:14 GMT 1
The British Rocket Group comes from the Quatermass tv series, of course. This link was also on one of those sites: www.geocomtex.netAnyway, yeah, close one Lee: right actor, wrong character!
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Post by rashamon on Jul 6, 2006 9:56:14 GMT 1
Kept awake last night by hot weather and started thinking about what might be in the Genesis Archive (or is it Ark?).
1. Davros 2. Captain Jack 3. The Genesis back catalogue 4. Genesis P Orridge
Any other ideas?
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 6, 2006 12:13:07 GMT 1
Dav-fuckin'-ros! I hope.
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Post by rashamon on Jul 6, 2006 12:55:52 GMT 1
I'm half expecting Captain Jack to show up though! Mickey appearing in the last episode was a complete surprise.
How else are they going to explain him getting from a space station in the future to Torchwood in time for the series?
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 6, 2006 19:49:09 GMT 1
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 8, 2006 20:16:37 GMT 1
Where was the Black Dalek teleporting to then? Did the 'new' Cybermen created on the normal Earth get sucked into the Void too? Is the Beast waiting in the Void for them all? Do you hate Catherine Tate?
Carolyn, Caroline, Lee: you all texted me at the exact same time after the episode finished, and you all said the same thing. Wusses! Wouldn't catch me getting a bit trembly, oh no...
At least we can get back to the usual Cybermen plot-background in future stories now. Those Cybus ones didn't put up much of a threat against the Daleks really.
But did anyone else, overall, feel that we've just watched the same series as the previous one, all over again? For what it's worth, here's my (entirely spurious, personal, and subject to change) Top 10:
1. The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. 2. Tooth And Claw. 3. The Girl In The Fireplace. 4. Army Of Ghosts/Doomsday. 5. Love And Monsters. 6. New Earth. 7. Rise Of The Cybermen/The Age Of Steel. 8. School Reunion. 9. The Idiot's Lantern. 10. Fear Her.
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Post by carrie on Jul 8, 2006 21:20:26 GMT 1
scared me. not barney, he was a bit scared at first, was very concerned as to why rose was crying. i wasn't to taken with the sentimental bullshit bit about reuniting rose,jackie and pete. but that's probably just me.
yes i felt that it followed plotlines from the previous series. it was one of my main complaints to tom throughout.
where did the prison ship disappear to?
i can accept tennant as the doctor, mainly because i had to, but never gonna be a favourite. i would like to know who, in the future, will be the doctor barney thinks of as the one...
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Post by stuhuggett on Jul 9, 2006 2:18:23 GMT 1
The prison ship was shown disapearring into the Void; the size of your tv/quality of reception may have made a difference here. I suspect it'll take a while before Barney grasps that there were different actors playing The Doctor: think it may be one of those things that a pre-school mind blanks-out. [To clarify: it took me 'til I was a fair bit older than Barney's age to understand what had happened from Jon Pertwee to Tom Baker, and that the former wasn't the same person as Mr Davenport from Rentaghost; or indeed that the three ghosts from Rentaghost weren't three of the Doctors... we're talking about memories from roughly 1974-1978; I was born in 1973]
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Post by Michael on Jul 9, 2006 11:08:24 GMT 1
Yes I hate Catherine Tate, Yes I was taken in by the sentimental bullshit, Tennent my favorite Docter yet, Darleks were always going to out gun the Cybermen and 'The Idiot Lantern' was pretty good IMHO. I'm off to work.
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